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<snip>It is a beautiful place to raise a child here. Unfortunately, it is QUITE >White here. Much prejudice and racism (stupidity) abounds. :( We want to >race our child with ethnic diversity. So, that and, coupled with the fact >that it rained about 120 inches last year and averages about 100 and has >three 100 year floods the past three years, we won’t be here for the rest of >our lives. But we are Oregonians for life, somewhere in the state. >AJPDLA
I have been thinking about this issue. I agree with you that I want to raise my family in a neighborhood with ethic diversity, but here in New England (I’m not sure how it is in other parts of the country) there seems to be little diversity except in the cities (Boston, Worcester) itself. Maybe I’m wrong on that point. What do others do to make sure kids have a healthy respect for and day-to-day exposure to other cultures? When I was a kid, my parents took us to church in the city, even though we lived in a "white" suburb just for this reason. (I just learned this a few years ago. I just thought it was because my mom didn’t like the priest at the church closest to us.) As a teacher in a "white" school (ok, we have 2 African-American kids and a couple of asian kids, most of whom were adopted into white families) I really see how sheltered and parochial these kids’ views are. They are in for such a shock when they go to college or into the workforce. A lot of the teachers talk about this and how we can help our students be less ignorant, but it’s so hard to erase years of thining that there is only one way. Any other thoughts? Jess
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GMTA????? I need a translation on this one.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> GMTA > Or put some kind of a keyless entry pad on the front door, or on the > garage > if you have a garage door opener. Then all they have to do is remember > the > code.
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>GMTA????? >I need a translation on this one.
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Thank you.
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Great Minds Think Alike. > AJPDLA > GMTA????? > I need a translation on this one. > > GMTA > > > Or put some kind of a keyless entry pad on the front door, or on the > > garage > > > if you have a garage door opener. Then all they have to do is > remember > > the > > > code.
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Sure, we could get an expensive cryptic coded keypad to make hacking more difficult. But I guess I look at it this way: if someone wants to get into the house (an uninvited someone, such as a burglar) s/he will get in no matter what we do or don’t do. We’re not as concerned about our possessions as we are about our personal safety. Having the key outside and available with a minimum of fuss alleviates the worry over being locked out. I choose not to live my life in paranoia over what *might* happen. And yes, we’ve had one "unauthorized entry". All they took was some fireworks in the basement — totally ignoring computer, stereo, etc. And they got in because we had stupidly left a basement door unlocked. If I keep worrying about a hypothetical someone whose aim in life is to take everything of mine away from me, I wouldn’t be enjoying life as I am now. What good is having something if you’re constantly afraid of it being taken away? I’d rather give up ownership than be owned by something. –Welmoed – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Three number code? Too easy to crack. Get a five or more, at least. Three > doesn’t take long for a skilled person to gain access. > AJPDLA > We got ourselves something that looks like a real estate lock box that > attaches to an outside wall. You pick a three-number code, and it keeps a > key safe. Ours is somewhat concealed (not really hidden, just not > immediately visible). Works like a charm; no key to lose. We had also > tried > a keyless entry pad but hated that it needed batteries and was really ugly > on the inside (they never show that in the catalog!). > –Welmoed > > Does anyone have a suggestion here? > > My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is > > with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started > > carrying purses with them or that might be a solution (if they didn’t > > lose the purse, that is). During the school year I have taught them to > > always keep the key in their back pack which I guess serves the > > function of a purse in this case. However, during the recently ended 2 > > week spring break and summer vacation the school backpack isn’t very > > prominent. Compounding the difficulty is the fact that they spend > > every other week at their mother’s house. On this recent spring break, > > they needed to use their key sans backpack so they could go out for the > > afternoon and be able to get back into the house. Since the backpacks > > weren’t around the key(s) got left in their jacket pockets which wound > > up staying at their mom’s house when they returned the following week. > > This shouldn’t be rocket science here, but I sure could use some good > > answer. > > Thanks. > > Regards, > > Allen Miller > > Before you buy. > — > IT Development and Technology Assessment > Visit the Fire Breathing Dragon!! > http://www.sissonfamily.com
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> I’m sorry. This "paranoia" of mine comes from years of living in Los > Angeles. We’re beyond that now, living in a much smaller area – MUCH > smaller – and I’m getting better. LOL. > AJPDLA
It’s hard to adjust isn’t it? I grew up in Indy. Not nearly as big as LA. But has most of the "big city" problems. Now we live in Corydon. (Think Mayberry and you are *really* close!) We are one of the few houses with dead bolt locks. When we chose a dog for the family, we looked for one that would be good with the kids but still very large and able to sound like the Hound of the Baskervilles if need be. And if he had to, we wanted one that would be capable of eating intruders. (Door to door salesmen leave my house very fast. lol) I was amazed when a neighbor asked me to let her dogs out when she would be out of town. I asked her if she wanted to loan me a house key. She told me "No, I’ll just leave the sliding glass door unlocked and you can go in that way." LOL No one locks the car doors. It goes on and on. None of it would have worked in Indy. And it took me a while to realize some things I had programed myself to do when I lived there just didn’t apply here. I can now actually walk down the street and make eye contact with passersby. In fact it’s expected that you not only make eye contact but smile and say hello. Considered rude if you don’t. lol Considered to be slightly insane if you do that in the city. lol You’ll get used to it. It really is a much nicer way to be able to live. Sharon
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> It’s hard to adjust isn’t it? I grew up in Indy. Not nearly as big as LA. > But has most of the "big city" problems. Now we live in Corydon. (Think > Mayberry and you are *really* close!) We are one of the few houses with > dead bolt locks. When we chose a dog for the family, we looked for one that > would be good with the kids but still very large and able to sound like the > Hound of the Baskervilles if need be. And if he had to, we wanted one that > would be capable of eating intruders. (Door to door salesmen leave my house > very fast. lol) I was amazed when a neighbor asked me to let her dogs out > when she would be out of town. I asked her if she wanted to loan me a house > key. She told me "No, I’ll just leave the sliding glass door unlocked and > you can go in that way." LOL No one locks the car doors. It goes on and > on. None of it would have worked in Indy. And it took me a while to > realize some things I had programed myself to do when I lived there just > didn’t apply here. I can now actually walk down the street and make eye > contact with passersby. In fact it’s expected that you not only make eye > contact but smile and say hello. Considered rude if you don’t. lol > Considered to be slightly insane if you do that in the city. lol > You’ll get used to it. It really is a much nicer way to be able to live. > Sharon
We experience now much of the same. The first time someone came up to me and said hello and wanted to know all of my business, I almost told them to go to hell. LOL. It’s just a different way of living here. I’ve already caught myself keeping doors unlocked. In L.A. we had a deadbolt on the inner AND an outer metal security gate door, on our front door!!!! We lived on the same street (one block south) where the Westside Rapist was raping women, two on that street, before he turned himself in. The cops couldn’t even catch him. We live in a house now and to have the garage door opened even though I am right inside the house still makes me nervous, even if I’m only going inside for a quick glass of water. I’m always checking that. It is a beautiful place to raise a child here. Unfortunately, it is QUITE White here. Much prejudice and racism (stupidity) abounds. :( We want to race our child with ethnic diversity. So, that and, coupled with the fact that it rained about 120 inches last year and averages about 100 and has three 100 year floods the past three years, we won’t be here for the rest of our lives. But we are Oregonians for life, somewhere in the state. AJPDLA
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: Sure, we could get an expensive cryptic coded keypad to make hacking more : difficult. But I guess I look at it this way: if someone wants to get into the : house (an uninvited someone, such as a burglar) s/he will get in no matter what : we do or don’t do. We’re not as concerned about our possessions as we are about : our personal safety. Having the key outside and available with a minimum of fuss But seriously….THREE numbers? they could be inside your house in 10 minutes or so… NOT a "good choice." Karen
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I’m sorry. This "paranoia" of mine comes from years of living in Los Angeles. We’re beyond that now, living in a much smaller area – MUCH smaller – and I’m getting better. LOL. AJPDLA
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Sure, we could get an expensive cryptic coded keypad to make hacking more > difficult. But I guess I look at it this way: if someone wants to get into the > house (an uninvited someone, such as a burglar) s/he will get in no matter what > we do or don’t do. We’re not as concerned about our possessions as we are about > our personal safety. Having the key outside and available with a minimum of fuss > alleviates the worry over being locked out. > I choose not to live my life in paranoia over what *might* happen. And yes, > we’ve had one "unauthorized entry". All they took was some fireworks in the > basement — totally ignoring computer, stereo, etc. And they got in because we > had stupidly left a basement door unlocked. > If I keep worrying about a hypothetical someone whose aim in life is to take > everything of mine away from me, I wouldn’t be enjoying life as I am now. What > good is having something if you’re constantly afraid of it being taken away? I’d > rather give up ownership than be owned by something. > –Welmoed
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Thanks everyone, for you thoughts. After thinking about this some more this is what I have come up with …. The girls don’t always have belt loops on their pants/shorts so the clip thing isn’t a good solution. They are already kind of into style/clothing/fashion and all that stuff. I gave each of them a key with a string on it that will fit around their neck. They can keep the key in their backpack but if they take it out to use it they have to put it around their neck (not in a pocket where it will get forgotten) until they return it to its spot. I also hid a key around the house for an emergency, although I told them there should be no emergencies <g>. Regards, – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text –
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> Does anyone have a suggestion here?
Haven’t you seen those little nylon sports things with the keyring that fits around your neck? I’ve never bought one, but I’m assuming you could find one at Footlocker or Old Navy (the Gap) or whatever. Everyone is wearing them around here. — Jack Tarkaan Kalamazoo, Michigan — NO UNSOLICITED E-MAIL AT THIS ADDRESS – Respect privacy – NO SPAM!!!!
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Great Minds Think Alike. AJPDLA
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> GMTA????? > I need a translation on this one. > GMTA > > Or put some kind of a keyless entry pad on the front door, or on the > garage > > if you have a garage door opener. Then all they have to do is remember > the > > code.
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Hi Allen, When I go running I put my key in this little nylon pouch that has velcro and attaches to my sneaker laces. It’s designed specifically for that purpose – if your daughters wear sneakers all the time, this might work for them. I think I got it from a Runner’s catalog – but you could probably find one at Wal-Mart or a sports store. jen * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet’s Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet – Free!
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Three number code? Too easy to crack. Get a five or more, at least. Three doesn’t take long for a skilled person to gain access. AJPDLA
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> We got ourselves something that looks like a real estate lock box that > attaches to an outside wall. You pick a three-number code, and it keeps a > key safe. Ours is somewhat concealed (not really hidden, just not > immediately visible). Works like a charm; no key to lose. We had also tried > a keyless entry pad but hated that it needed batteries and was really ugly > on the inside (they never show that in the catalog!). > –Welmoed > Does anyone have a suggestion here? > My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is > with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started > carrying purses with them or that might be a solution (if they didn’t > lose the purse, that is). During the school year I have taught them to > always keep the key in their back pack which I guess serves the > function of a purse in this case. However, during the recently ended 2 > week spring break and summer vacation the school backpack isn’t very > prominent. Compounding the difficulty is the fact that they spend > every other week at their mother’s house. On this recent spring break, > they needed to use their key sans backpack so they could go out for the > afternoon and be able to get back into the house. Since the backpacks > weren’t around the key(s) got left in their jacket pockets which wound > up staying at their mom’s house when they returned the following week. > This shouldn’t be rocket science here, but I sure could use some good > answer. > Thanks. > Regards, > Allen Miller > Before you buy. > — > IT Development and Technology Assessment > Visit the Fire Breathing Dragon!! > http://www.sissonfamily.com
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We got ourselves something that looks like a real estate lock box that attaches to an outside wall. You pick a three-number code, and it keeps a key safe. Ours is somewhat concealed (not really hidden, just not immediately visible). Works like a charm; no key to lose. We had also tried a keyless entry pad but hated that it needed batteries and was really ugly on the inside (they never show that in the catalog!). –Welmoed – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Does anyone have a suggestion here? > My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is > with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started > carrying purses with them or that might be a solution (if they didn’t > lose the purse, that is). During the school year I have taught them to > always keep the key in their back pack which I guess serves the > function of a purse in this case. However, during the recently ended 2 > week spring break and summer vacation the school backpack isn’t very > prominent. Compounding the difficulty is the fact that they spend > every other week at their mother’s house. On this recent spring break, > they needed to use their key sans backpack so they could go out for the > afternoon and be able to get back into the house. Since the backpacks > weren’t around the key(s) got left in their jacket pockets which wound > up staying at their mom’s house when they returned the following week. > This shouldn’t be rocket science here, but I sure could use some good > answer. > Thanks. > Regards, > Allen Miller > Before you buy.
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I wore my house key around my neck as a kid… my Grandfather gave me his WWII dog tags to wear with it! – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone have a suggestion here? > My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is > with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started > carrying purses with them or that might be a solution (if they didn’t > lose the purse, that is). During the school year I have taught them to > always keep the key in their back pack which I guess serves the > function of a purse in this case. However, during the recently ended 2 > week spring break and summer vacation the school backpack isn’t very > prominent. Compounding the difficulty is the fact that they spend > every other week at their mother’s house. On this recent spring break, > they needed to use their key sans backpack so they could go out for the > afternoon and be able to get back into the house. Since the backpacks > weren’t around the key(s) got left in their jacket pockets which wound > up staying at their mom’s house when they returned the following week. > This shouldn’t be rocket science here, but I sure could use some good > answer. > Thanks. > Regards, > Allen Miller > Before you buy.
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> My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is > with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started
If they wear jeans, they could clip the key to their beltloops with a little carabiner. Lots of people wear them and you can get them for (usually) under $5 at camping/outdoor stores. — Erin Coe Carleton U. Mechie —- Calvin’s dad, on how to make babies: —- "…just go to Sears, buy the kit, and follow the assembly instructions." "I came from *SEARS*??" "No, YOU were a Blue Light Special at K-Mart. Almost as good, and a lot cheaper."
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GMTA – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Or put some kind of a keyless entry pad on the front door, or on the garage > if you have a garage door opener. Then all they have to do is remember the > code.
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My boy has his attached to a necklace…. Sarah Mom to Kalen (8) and Victoria (4months) – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone have a suggestion here? > My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is > with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started > carrying purses with them or that might be a solution (if they didn’t > lose the purse, that is). During the school year I have taught them to > always keep the key in their back pack which I guess serves the > function of a purse in this case. However, during the recently ended 2 > week spring break and summer vacation the school backpack isn’t very > prominent. Compounding the difficulty is the fact that they spend > every other week at their mother’s house. On this recent spring break, > they needed to use their key sans backpack so they could go out for the > afternoon and be able to get back into the house. Since the backpacks > weren’t around the key(s) got left in their jacket pockets which wound > up staying at their mom’s house when they returned the following week. > This shouldn’t be rocket science here, but I sure could use some good > answer. > Thanks. > Regards, > Allen Miller > Before you buy.
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I was a latchkey kid and my mom made me a "necklace" and my key was on it…like a charm. — Connie Proud mommy to Julianna Nicole aka "cutie pie"…12/10/99 http://pages.ivillage.com/pp/conniesbelly/babypage.html – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >Does anyone have a suggestion here? >My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is >with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started >carrying purses with them or that might be a solution (if they didn’t >lose the purse, that is). During the school year I have taught them to >always keep the key in their back pack which I guess serves the >function of a purse in this case. However, during the recently ended 2 >week spring break and summer vacation the school backpack isn’t very >prominent. Compounding the difficulty is the fact that they spend >every other week at their mother’s house. On this recent spring break, >they needed to use their key sans backpack so they could go out for the >afternoon and be able to get back into the house. Since the backpacks >weren’t around the key(s) got left in their jacket pockets which wound >up staying at their mom’s house when they returned the following week. >This shouldn’t be rocket science here, but I sure could use some good >answer. >Thanks. >Regards, >Allen Miller >Before you buy.
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Think "Large Safety Pin". If the young ladies are developed at this age or for a yr down the road, have them pin a key to their bra. Or, leave a key with a neighbor. There is always someplace you could hide a key & it could be moved often for protection. The key could be hidden on a neighbor’s property or a block away for that matter (for emergencies). Hope this sparks an idea. Judy
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone have a suggestion here? > My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is > with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started > carrying purses with them or that might be a solution (if they didn’t > lose the purse, that is). During the school year I have taught them to > always keep the key in their back pack which I guess serves the > function of a purse in this case. However, during the recently ended 2 > week spring break and summer vacation the school backpack isn’t very > prominent. Compounding the difficulty is the fact that they spend > every other week at their mother’s house. On this recent spring break, > they needed to use their key sans backpack so they could go out for the > afternoon and be able to get back into the house. Since the backpacks > weren’t around the key(s) got left in their jacket pockets which wound > up staying at their mom’s house when they returned the following week. > This shouldn’t be rocket science here, but I sure could use some good > answer. > Thanks. > Regards, > Allen Miller > a chain around the neck with the key on it like a locket? or a really > good hiding place outside [unfortunately others may observe it if it is > frequently used and the kids are obvious, which being kids, they will be.]
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Does anyone have a suggestion here? > My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is > with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started > carrying purses with them or that might be a solution (if they didn’t > lose the purse, that is). During the school year I have taught them to > always keep the key in their back pack which I guess serves the > function of a purse in this case. However, during the recently ended 2 > week spring break and summer vacation the school backpack isn’t very > prominent. Compounding the difficulty is the fact that they spend > every other week at their mother’s house. On this recent spring break, > they needed to use their key sans backpack so they could go out for the > afternoon and be able to get back into the house. Since the backpacks > weren’t around the key(s) got left in their jacket pockets which wound > up staying at their mom’s house when they returned the following week. > This shouldn’t be rocket science here, but I sure could use some good > answer. > Thanks. > Regards, > Allen Miller > a chain around the neck with the key on it like a locket? or a really > good hiding place outside [unfortunately others may observe it if it is > frequently used and the kids are obvious, which being kids, they will be.]
Or put some kind of a keyless entry pad on the front door, or on the garage if you have a garage door opener. Then all they have to do is remember the code.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – > Does anyone have a suggestion here? > My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is > with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started > carrying purses with them or that might be a solution (if they didn’t > lose the purse, that is). During the school year I have taught them to > always keep the key in their back pack which I guess serves the > function of a purse in this case. However, during the recently ended 2 > week spring break and summer vacation the school backpack isn’t very > prominent. Compounding the difficulty is the fact that they spend > every other week at their mother’s house. On this recent spring break, > they needed to use their key sans backpack so they could go out for the > afternoon and be able to get back into the house. Since the backpacks > weren’t around the key(s) got left in their jacket pockets which wound > up staying at their mom’s house when they returned the following week. > This shouldn’t be rocket science here, but I sure could use some good > answer. > Thanks. > Regards, > Allen Miller
a chain around the neck with the key on it like a locket? or a really good hiding place outside [unfortunately others may observe it if it is frequently used and the kids are obvious, which being kids, they will be.]
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Does anyone have a suggestion here? My 12 year old twin daughters lose their house keys. The problem is with not having a good place to store the key. They haven’t started carrying purses with them or that might be a solution (if they didn’t lose the purse, that is). During the school year I have taught them to always keep the key in their back pack which I guess serves the function of a purse in this case. However, during the recently ended 2 week spring break and summer vacation the school backpack isn’t very prominent. Compounding the difficulty is the fact that they spend every other week at their mother’s house. On this recent spring break, they needed to use their key sans backpack so they could go out for the afternoon and be able to get back into the house. Since the backpacks weren’t around the key(s) got left in their jacket pockets which wound up staying at their mom’s house when they returned the following week. This shouldn’t be rocket science here, but I sure could use some good answer. Thanks. Regards, Allen Miller Before you buy.
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